I think 515 was the MCAT average. (Info / ^Contact). So, I went into my MPH in Epi, still on the fence about the PhD. I don't know how other schools work but my school has an MD/MPH program and they sent out letters after multiple acceptance deadline asking people to apply if they want. I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. I am just at such a loss right now, any comments/guidance/personal experiences would be great. On the other hand, I dont see myself fitting into anything in the healthcare field anymore. I just felt like I didn't have the time. I probably have a rant but I am also open to suggestions. Scared of how many people would you be letting down? My question is, how often do people with an MPH w/MD secure positions amongst people with just an MPH? That's what these scientists with PHD's mostly seem to focus on. Although many of my colleagues (at a major health department) do have PhDs, it’s only (sometimes) required at the most senior leadership levels. I think that I would like both directions, but I understand the medical side more since I've been working in clinical medicine. After some super anxiety inducing moments, and trying my hand at a masters program --medical school linage, I decided to go to the Caribbean (SGU). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If you want to be a doctor who practices with a public health lens, do the MD-MPH. I was actually in your situation this past year (I just graduated) and was told by my PH major advisor and my pre-med advisor that it would be wise to use that gap year to apply for some health-related jobs and then apply for a dual MD/MPH program. They do many of the same things medical epidemiologists do. Since I'm looking for something that supplements my degree, I really do not want to take 2-3 years off to get an MPH while I could work on my MD program during that time. Tulane does a combined MD/MPH that can be done in 4 years (painful though). An MD combined with an MPH degree can earn a very high salary and be in constant demand according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. A subreddit for doctors, residents, or medical students who have left or are considering leaving the field of clinical medicine. Are md/mph programs more competitive to apply to? I left my husband behind in the states for 2 years and hoped for the best. As a student of St Johns College, Oxford, from 1936 to 1939, he received his BA and MA degrees in Physiology. it depends on your school list, but here's how it went for me: Some schools simply allow you to get accepted MD then join the MD/MPH program if you want to before matriculation (Tulane). So like LizzyM said, public health is definitely good for people who like academic research but clinical rather than bench. All Rights Reserved. The vast majority of epidemiologists aren’t doing anything nearly as complicated (thankfully), even with PhDs. I've only recently heard of the latter being an option and I'd like to learn more, but I have no idea if that is a really uncommon and risky way to get the MPH. So, I'm guessing it's not entirely a useless degree? But, as per my previous para, the latter (though note that although an MPH traditionally is one, a DrPH is increasingly being required/preferred by employers) is usually not accepted for senior academic posts. I sat down the other day and accepted that i will not be happy in medical school/ residency/ and maybe even as a doctor. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Press J to jump to the feed. I know PAs can get jobs almost anywhere. You can: Unfortunately, getting an MPH from a top program means doing an extra year...I'm looking for programs I can finish in 1-1.5 years and there are very few of those. Most dual degrees that I researched (MD-MBA, though mostly MPH applied as well) during the app cycle/asked about at interviews said something like: woah!!! Place your sponsorship banner here for $266.67 per Month! If so, what concentration? Are you familiar with anyone on SDN who applied to both MD/DO programs and MPH programs the same cycle? I keep telling myself, medicine is interesting... medicine is exhilarating, I love taking care of people, I love learning new things, science is cool. After recuperating and continuing my therapy, I made a plan to retake it. With a dual MD/MPH degree, you will have the opportunity to not only learn the medical field. My decision was that it made very little sense to spend nearly a decade of my life getting an MD, completing a residency, etc. Well, this was one of the biggest mistakes of my life. And the Association of Schools of Public Health also offers resources for prospective students, including information on careers in public health. Some schools make you apply to both programs separately. Well I was thinking of getting an Mph in Industrial hygiene. I’m a few years into my post-MPH career and leaning away from doing the PhD now. Honestly at this point, why would I even want to do medicine anymore knowing that these are the kinds of people I would have to deal with constantly. I'm more asking if PHD would allow me to applied epi without getting too bogged down in theory. Most people I know interested in doing an MD/MPH submitted their medical school application and checked off the MD/MPH box on their AMCAS application for schools that offered an MD/MPH option. lol. All other places I know of for the combined degree take at least 5 years. Your state uni is being quite generous then. It’s more of a minuscule percentage of the field where it combines with advanced computer science. I am realizing that, while I am good (or at least ok) at math and stats, I am not sure if I want to get too deep into the nitty gritty theories of modeling. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. However, if what you’re interested in is applied epi, there’s little reason for you to spend the extra time and money to get a PhD learning how to design and conduct theoretical research; an MPH in epi/biostats is a direct route to applied epi. Every project I work on will likely impact people 30, 40, or even 50 years from now. The short of it is that alternative employers for epidemiology or public health services (ie local or central government public health departments; hospital research teams; private companies; charities etc), can accept BOTH the types of training you mention.

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